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Talk:Wood products

2006-04-11T20:10:54Z

Parag0n:

How about "Wood Planks" or "Real Wood"? Pixelhugger is using that for his cab.

[[User:Buddabing|Buddabing]] 09:33, 11 April 2006 (EDT)

Isnt the classification actually "Soft Wood"?

[[User:Parag0n|Parag0n]] 16:10, 11 April 2006 (EDT)

Game Consoles

2006-04-10T17:31:06Z

Parag0n: Finished dates

{{WorkInProgress|talk:Console Emulators}}

This page contains brief descriptions of all game consoles (new and classics). Some users may prefer to use a game console as a base.

''Note:''
* If a game consoles is bold, it still in the market''
* If a game consoles is italic, it still on the way to the market''

{| Width="100%" valign="top" border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="3" style="background:white; color:black; border:1px solid silver;"
|- style="background:navy; color:white"
|'''Company'''
|'''Console'''
|'''Players'''
|'''Controls1'''
|'''Game Buttons2'''
|'''Cabfriendly Emulators3'''
|'''Year'''

|- style="background:#f8f8f8f8;"
|3DO Company
|[[3DO Interactive Multiplayer]]
| 1?
| Digital
| 5
| ?
| 1993

|- style="background:#ffffdd;"
|rowspan=4|Atari
| [[Atari 2600]]
| 2
| Digital4
| 1
| [[Stella]]
| 1977

|- style="background:#ffffdd;"
| [[Atari 5200]]
| 4
| Analog + Keypad
| 2
| [[MESS]]
| 1982

|- style="background:#ffffdd;"
| [[Atari 7800]]
| 2
| Digital4
| ?
| [[MESS]]
| 1986

|- style="background:#ffffdd;"
| [[Atari Jaguar]]
| 2
| Digital + Keypad
| 3
| ?
| 1993

|- style="background:#f8f8f8f8;"
| Bally
| [[Bally Astrocade]]
| 4
| Digital + Spinner
| 1
| ?
| 1978

|- style="background:#ffffdd;"
| Bandai
| [[Bandai Atmark (Apple Pippin)]]
| 2
| Digital + Trackball
| 6
| ?
| 1995

|- style="background:#f8f8f8f8;"
| Coleco
| [[Colecovision]]
| 2
| Digital + Keypad
| 1
| [[MESS]]
| 1982

|- style="background:#ffffdd;"
| rowspan=3|Commodore
| [[Commodore 64 GS]]
| 2
| Digital4
| 1
| ?
| 1982

|- style="background:#ffffdd;"
| [[Commodore CDTV]]
| 1
| Digital + Keypad
| 2
| ?
| 1991

|- style="background:#ffffdd;"
| [[Commodore CD32]]
| 2
| Digital
| 6
| ?
| 1993

|- style="background:#f8f8f8f8;"
| Emerson
| [[Hanimex HMG 2650 (Arcadia)]]
| ?
| ?
| ?
| [[MESS]]
| 198?

|- style="background:#ffffdd;"
| Epoch
| [[Cassettevision]]
| 2
| ?
| ?
| ?
| 1981

|- style="background:#f8f8f8f8;"
| Fairchild
| [[Fairchild Channel F]]
| ?
| ?
| ?
| [[MESS]]
| 1976

|- style="background:#ffffdd;"
| Interton
| [[Interton VC4000]]
| ?
| ?
| ?
| ?
| 1978

|- style="background:#f8f8f8f8;"
| Rowspan=2|Magnavox
| [[Magnavox Odyssey]]
| 2
| Spinner
| ?
| ?
| 1972

|- style="background:#f8f8f8f8;"
| [[Magnavox Odyssey 2]]
| 2
| Digital
| 1
| ?
| 1978

|- style="background:#ffffdd;"
| Mattel
| [[Intellivision]]
| 2
| 16-direction disc + Keypad
| 3
| [[Nostalgia]]
| 1980

|- style="background:#f8f8f8f8;"
|Rowspan=2|Microsoft
|'''[[Xbox]]'''
| 4
| Digital + 2xAnalog
| 6 (4d + 2a)
| ?
| 2001

|- style="background:#f8f8f8f8;"
|'''[[Xbox 360]]'''
| ?
| ?
| ?
| '''NO'''
| 2005

|- style="background:#ffffdd;"
| Rowspan=2|NEC
| [[PC Engine/Turbografx 16]]
| ?
| ?
| ?
| ?
| 1987

|- style="background:#ffffdd;"
| [[Nec PC-FX]]
| ?
| ?
| ?
| ?
| 1994

|- style="background:#f8f8f8f8;"
|rowspan=5|Nintendo
| [[Nintendo NES/Famicom]]
| ?
| Digital
| 2
| [[FCE Ultra ]]
| 1983

|- style="background:#f8f8f8f8;"
| [[Super Nintendo (Super Famicom)]]
| ?
| Digital
| 6
| [[Zsnes]] [[Snes9x]]
| 1990

|- style="background:#f8f8f8f8;"
| [[Nintendo 64]]
| 4
| Digital + Analog
| 9
| [[Project 64]]
| 1996

|- style="background:#f8f8f8f8;"
|'''[[Nintendo Gamecube]]'''
| ?
| ?
| ?
| ?
| 2001

|- style="background:#f8f8f8f8;"
|'''''[[Nintendo Revolution]]'''''
| ?
| ?
| ?
| '''NO'''
| 2006(exp)

|- style="background:#ffffdd;"
| Nuon
| [[Nuon]]
| ?
| ?
| ?
| [[Nuance]]
| ?

|- style="background:#f8f8f8f8;"
| Rowspan=2|Philips
| [[Philips CD-i]]
| ?
| ?
| ?
| ?
| 1991

|- style="background:#f8f8f8f8;"
| [[Philips G7000]]
| ?
| ?
| ?
| ?
| 1978

|- style="background:#ffffdd;"
|Rowspan=4|Sega
| [[Sega Master System]]
| 2
| Digital4
| 2
| [[Kega Fusion]]
| 1985

|- style="background:#ffffdd;"
| [[Sega Megadrive/Genesis/32X]]
| 2
| Digital4
| 3
| [[Kega Fusion]]
| 1988

|- style="background:#ffffdd;"
| [[Sega Saturn]]
| ?
| ?
| ?
| [[SSF]]
| 1995

|- style="background:#ffffdd;"
| [[Sega Dreamcast]]
| ?
| Digital Analog
| 6
| [[Chanka]]
| 1998

|- style="background:#f8f8f8f8;"
| SNK
| [[SNK NeoGeo]]
| 2
| Digital
| 4
| ?
| 1990

|- style="background:#ffffdd;"
|rowspan=3|Sony
| [[Sony Playstation]]
| 2
| Digital
| 8
| ?
| 1994

|- style="background:#ffffdd;"
| '''[[Playstation 2]]'''
| 2
| 3xAnalog
| 8a
| ?
| 2000

|- style="background:#ffffdd;"
| '''''[[Playstation 3]]'''''
| ?
| ?
| ?
| '''NO'''
| 2006(exp)

|- style="background:#f8f8f8f8;"
| Vectrex
| [[Vectrex]]
| ?
| ?
| ?
| [[MESS]]
| 1982
|}

1) Controls:
* Some consoles had Digital and/or Analog controls, both are listed.
* If the console used a keypad (some older consoles had one!), it is mentioned in the list.
* Only the '''standard control''' that came with the machine are "listed"
* Any addons like Dual Shock (PSX) and Pro Controllers (Genesis, Jaguar etc) are explained in the indepth page. These may require more buttons.

2) Buttons:
* This list count only fire/action buttons on their control that are used to play games. Note that the buttons are listed for ''one player''.
* Some systems may have start/select and/or other system buttons/swiches, but these are not counted (most emulators have special keys for those).
* Buttons are marked '''d'''igital or '''a'''nalog. Default is '''d'''igital.

3) Cabfriendly:
* Only the most commonly used [[cabinet friendly software|cabinet friendly emulator(s)]] is(are) listed. The console's page might have a more comprehensive list of emulators.

4) Hacking:
* These Atari controllers are very easy to [[Atari Controller Interfaces| interface]] to your arcade controls. It's even compatible with other systems too.

Game Consoles

2006-04-10T17:20:13Z

Parag0n: Added more dates

{{WorkInProgress|talk:Console Emulators}}

This page contains brief descriptions of all game consoles (new and classics). Some users may prefer to use a game console as a base.

''Note:''
* If a game consoles is bold, it still in the market''
* If a game consoles is italic, it still on the way to the market''

{| Width="100%" valign="top" border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="3" style="background:white; color:black; border:1px solid silver;"
|- style="background:navy; color:white"
|'''Company'''
|'''Console'''
|'''Players'''
|'''Controls1'''
|'''Game Buttons2'''
|'''Cabfriendly Emulators3'''
|'''Year'''

|- style="background:#f8f8f8f8;"
|3DO Company
|[[3DO Interactive Multiplayer]]
| 1?
| Digital
| 5
| ?
| 1993

|- style="background:#ffffdd;"
|rowspan=4|Atari
| [[Atari 2600]]
| 2
| Digital4
| 1
| [[Stella]]
| 1977

|- style="background:#ffffdd;"
| [[Atari 5200]]
| 4
| Analog + Keypad
| 2
| [[MESS]]
| 1982

|- style="background:#ffffdd;"
| [[Atari 7800]]
| 2
| Digital4
| ?
| [[MESS]]
| 1986

|- style="background:#ffffdd;"
| [[Atari Jaguar]]
| 2
| Digital + Keypad
| 3
| ?
| 1993

|- style="background:#f8f8f8f8;"
| Bally
| [[Bally Astrocade]]
| 4
| Digital + Spinner
| 1
| ?
| 1978

|- style="background:#ffffdd;"
| Bandai
| [[Bandai Atmark (Apple Pippin)]]
| 2
| Digital + Trackball
| 6
| ?
| 1995

|- style="background:#f8f8f8f8;"
| Coleco
| [[Colecovision]]
| 2
| Digital + Keypad
| 1
| [[MESS]]
| 1982

|- style="background:#ffffdd;"
| rowspan=3|Commodore
| [[Commodore 64 GS]]
| 2
| Digital4
| 1
| ?
| 1982

|- style="background:#ffffdd;"
| [[Commodore CDTV]]
| 1
| Digital + Keypad
| 2
| ?
| 1991

|- style="background:#ffffdd;"
| [[Commodore CD32]]
| 2
| Digital
| 6
| ?
| 1993

|- style="background:#f8f8f8f8;"
| Emerson
| [[Hanimex HMG 2650 (Arcadia)]]
| ?
| ?
| ?
| [[MESS]]
| 198?

|- style="background:#ffffdd;"
| Epoch
| [[Cassettevision]]
| 2
| ?
| ?
| ?
| 1981

|- style="background:#f8f8f8f8;"
| Fairchild
| [[Fairchild Channel F]]
| ?
| ?
| ?
| [[MESS]]
| 1976

|- style="background:#ffffdd;"
| Interton
| [[Interton VC4000]]
| ?
| ?
| ?
| ?
| 1978

|- style="background:#f8f8f8f8;"
| Rowspan=2|Magnavox
| [[Magnavox Odyssey]]
| 2
| Spinner
| ?
| ?
| 1972

|- style="background:#f8f8f8f8;"
| [[Magnavox Odyssey 2]]
| 2
| Digital
| 1
| ?
| 1978

|- style="background:#ffffdd;"
| Mattel
| [[Intellivision]]
| 2
| 16-direction disc + Keypad
| 3
| [[Nostalgia]]
| 1980

|- style="background:#f8f8f8f8;"
|Rowspan=2|Microsoft
|'''[[Xbox]]'''
| 4
| Digital + 2xAnalog
| 6 (4d + 2a)
| ?
| 2001

|- style="background:#f8f8f8f8;"
|'''[[Xbox 360]]'''
| ?
| ?
| ?
| '''NO'''
| 2005

|- style="background:#ffffdd;"
| Rowspan=2|NEC
| [[PC Engine/Turbografx 16]]
| ?
| ?
| ?
| ?
| 1987

|- style="background:#ffffdd;"
| [[Nec PC-FX]]
| ?
| ?
| ?
| ?
| 1994

|- style="background:#f8f8f8f8;"
|rowspan=5|Nintendo
| [[Nintendo NES/Famicom]]
| ?
| Digital
| 2
| [[FCE Ultra ]]
| 1983

|- style="background:#f8f8f8f8;"
| [[Super Nintendo (Super Famicom)]]
| ?
| Digital
| 6
| [[Zsnes]] [[Snes9x]]
| 1990

|- style="background:#f8f8f8f8;"
| [[Nintendo 64]]
| 4
| Digital + Analog
| 9
| [[Project 64]]
| 1996

|- style="background:#f8f8f8f8;"
|'''[[Nintendo Gamecube]]'''
| ?
| ?
| ?
| ?
| 2001

|- style="background:#f8f8f8f8;"
|'''''[[Nintendo Revolution]]'''''
| ?
| ?
| ?
| '''NO'''
| 2006(exp)

|- style="background:#ffffdd;"
| Nuon
| [[Nuon]]
| ?
| ?
| ?
| [[Nuance]]
| ?

|- style="background:#f8f8f8f8;"
| Rowspan=2|Philips
| [[Philips CD-i]]
| ?
| ?
| ?
| ?
| ?

|- style="background:#f8f8f8f8;"
| [[Philips G7000]]
| ?
| ?
| ?
| ?
| ?

|- style="background:#ffffdd;"
|Rowspan=4|Sega
| [[Sega Master System]]
| 2
| Digital4
| 2
| [[Kega Fusion]]
| ?

|- style="background:#ffffdd;"
| [[Sega Megadrive/Genesis/32X]]
| 2
| Digital4
| 3
| [[Kega Fusion]]
| ?

|- style="background:#ffffdd;"
| [[Sega Saturn]]
| ?
| ?
| ?
| [[SSF]]
| ?

|- style="background:#ffffdd;"
| [[Sega Dreamcast]]
| ?
| Digital Analog
| 6
| [[Chanka]]
| ?

|- style="background:#f8f8f8f8;"
| SNK
| [[SNK NeoGeo]]
| 2
| Digital
| 4
| ?
| ?

|- style="background:#ffffdd;"
|rowspan=3|Sony
| [[Sony Playstation]]
| 2
| Digital
| 8
| ?
| ?

|- style="background:#ffffdd;"
| '''[[Playstation 2]]'''
| 2
| 3xAnalog
| 8a
| ?
| ?

|- style="background:#ffffdd;"
| '''''[[Playstation 3]]'''''
| ?
| ?
| ?
| '''NO'''
| ?

|- style="background:#f8f8f8f8;"
| Vectrex
| [[Vectrex]]
| ?
| ?
| ?
| [[MESS]]
| ?
|}

1) Controls:
* Some consoles had Digital and/or Analog controls, both are listed.
* If the console used a keypad (some older consoles had one!), it is mentioned in the list.
* Only the '''standard control''' that came with the machine are "listed"
* Any addons like Dual Shock (PSX) and Pro Controllers (Genesis, Jaguar etc) are explained in the indepth page. These may require more buttons.

2) Buttons:
* This list count only fire/action buttons on their control that are used to play games. Note that the buttons are listed for ''one player''.
* Some systems may have start/select and/or other system buttons/swiches, but these are not counted (most emulators have special keys for those).
* Buttons are marked '''d'''igital or '''a'''nalog. Default is '''d'''igital.

3) Cabfriendly:
* Only the most commonly used [[cabinet friendly software|cabinet friendly emulator(s)]] is(are) listed. The console's page might have a more comprehensive list of emulators.

4) Hacking:
* These Atari controllers are very easy to [[Atari Controller Interfaces| interface]] to your arcade controls. It's even compatible with other systems too.

Game Consoles

2006-04-10T17:06:25Z

Parag0n: Added some dates

{{WorkInProgress|talk:Console Emulators}}

This page contains brief descriptions of all game consoles (new and classics). Some users may prefer to use a game console as a base.

''Note:''
* If a game consoles is bold, it still in the market''
* If a game consoles is italic, it still on the way to the market''

{| Width="100%" valign="top" border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="3" style="background:white; color:black; border:1px solid silver;"
|- style="background:navy; color:white"
|'''Company'''
|'''Console'''
|'''Players'''
|'''Controls1'''
|'''Game Buttons2'''
|'''Cabfriendly Emulators3'''
|'''Year'''

|- style="background:#f8f8f8f8;"
|3DO Company
|[[3DO Interactive Multiplayer]]
| 1?
| Digital
| 5
| ?
| 1993

|- style="background:#ffffdd;"
|rowspan=4|Atari
| [[Atari 2600]]
| 2
| Digital4
| 1
| [[Stella]]
| 1977

|- style="background:#ffffdd;"
| [[Atari 5200]]
| 4
| Analog + Keypad
| 2
| [[MESS]]
| 1982

|- style="background:#ffffdd;"
| [[Atari 7800]]
| 2
| Digital4
| ?
| [[MESS]]
| 1986

|- style="background:#ffffdd;"
| [[Atari Jaguar]]
| 2
| Digital + Keypad
| 3
| ?
| 1993

|- style="background:#f8f8f8f8;"
| Bally
| [[Bally Astrocade]]
| 4
| Digital + Spinner
| 1
| ?
| 1978

|- style="background:#ffffdd;"
| Bandai
| [[Bandai Atmark (Apple Pippin)]]
| 2
| Digital + Trackball
| 6
| ?
| ?

|- style="background:#f8f8f8f8;"
| Coleco
| [[Colecovision]]
| 2
| Digital + Keypad
| 1
| [[MESS]]
| ?

|- style="background:#ffffdd;"
| rowspan=3|Commodore
| [[Commodore 64 GS]]
| 2
| Digital4
| 1
| ?
| ?

|- style="background:#ffffdd;"
| [[Commodore CDTV]]
| 1
| Digital + Keypad
| 2
| ?
| ?

|- style="background:#ffffdd;"
| [[Commodore CD32]]
| 2
| Digital
| 6
| ?
| ?

|- style="background:#f8f8f8f8;"
| Emerson
| [[Hanimex HMG 2650 (Arcadia)]]
| ?
| ?
| ?
| [[MESS]]
| ?

|- style="background:#ffffdd;"
| Epoch
| [[Cassettevision]]
| 2
| ?
| ?
| ?
| ?

|- style="background:#f8f8f8f8;"
| Fairchild
| [[Fairchild Channel F]]
| ?
| ?
| ?
| [[MESS]]
| ?

|- style="background:#ffffdd;"
| Interton
| [[Inverton VC4000]]
| ?
| ?
| ?
| ?
| ?

|- style="background:#f8f8f8f8;"
| Rowspan=2|Magnavox
| [[Magnavox Odyssey]]
| 2
| Spinner
| ?
| ?
| ?

|- style="background:#f8f8f8f8;"
| [[Magnavox Odyssey 2]]
| 2
| Digital
| 1
| ?
| ?

|- style="background:#ffffdd;"
| Mattel
| [[Intellivision]]
| 2
| 16-direction disc + Keypad
| 3
| [[Nostalgia]]
| ?

|- style="background:#f8f8f8f8;"
|Rowspan=2|Microsoft
|'''[[Xbox]]'''
| 4
| Digital + 2xAnalog
| 6 (4d + 2a)
| ?
| ?

|- style="background:#f8f8f8f8;"
|'''[[Xbox 360]]'''
| ?
| ?
| ?
| '''NO'''
| ?

|- style="background:#ffffdd;"
| Rowspan=2|NEC
| [[PC Engine/Turbografx 16]]
| ?
| ?
| ?
| ?
| ?

|- style="background:#ffffdd;"
| [[Nec PC-FX]]
| ?
| ?
| ?
| ?
| ?

|- style="background:#f8f8f8f8;"
|rowspan=5|Nintendo
| [[Nintendo NES/Famicom]]
| ?
| Digital
| 2
| [[FCE Ultra ]]
| ?

|- style="background:#f8f8f8f8;"
| [[Super Nintendo (Super Famicom)]]
| ?
| Digital
| 6
| [[Zsnes]] [[Snes9x]]
| ?

|- style="background:#f8f8f8f8;"
| [[Nintendo 64]]
| 4
| Digital + Analog
| 9
| [[Project 64]]
| ?

|- style="background:#f8f8f8f8;"
|'''[[Nintendo Gamecube]]'''
| ?
| ?
| ?
| ?
| ?

|- style="background:#f8f8f8f8;"
|'''''[[Nintendo Revolution]]'''''
| ?
| ?
| ?
| '''NO'''
| ?

|- style="background:#ffffdd;"
| Nuon
| [[Nuon]]
| ?
| ?
| ?
| [[Nuance]]
| ?

|- style="background:#f8f8f8f8;"
| Rowspan=2|Philips
| [[Philips CD-i]]
| ?
| ?
| ?
| ?
| ?

|- style="background:#f8f8f8f8;"
| [[Philips G7000]]
| ?
| ?
| ?
| ?
| ?

|- style="background:#ffffdd;"
|Rowspan=4|Sega
| [[Sega Master System]]
| 2
| Digital4
| 2
| [[Kega Fusion]]
| ?

|- style="background:#ffffdd;"
| [[Sega Megadrive/Genesis/32X]]
| 2
| Digital4
| 3
| [[Kega Fusion]]
| ?

|- style="background:#ffffdd;"
| [[Sega Saturn]]
| ?
| ?
| ?
| [[SSF]]
| ?

|- style="background:#ffffdd;"
| [[Sega Dreamcast]]
| ?
| Digital Analog
| 6
| [[Chanka]]
| ?

|- style="background:#f8f8f8f8;"
| SNK
| [[SNK NeoGeo]]
| 2
| Digital
| 4
| ?
| ?

|- style="background:#ffffdd;"
|rowspan=3|Sony
| [[Sony Playstation]]
| 2
| Digital
| 8
| ?
| ?

|- style="background:#ffffdd;"
| '''[[Playstation 2]]'''
| 2
| 3xAnalog
| 8a
| ?
| ?

|- style="background:#ffffdd;"
| '''''[[Playstation 3]]'''''
| ?
| ?
| ?
| '''NO'''
| ?

|- style="background:#f8f8f8f8;"
| Vectrex
| [[Vectrex]]
| ?
| ?
| ?
| [[MESS]]
| ?
|}

1) Controls:
* Some consoles had Digital and/or Analog controls, both are listed.
* If the console used a keypad (some older consoles had one!), it is mentioned in the list.
* Only the '''standard control''' that came with the machine are "listed"
* Any addons like Dual Shock (PSX) and Pro Controllers (Genesis, Jaguar etc) are explained in the indepth page. These may require more buttons.

2) Buttons:
* This list count only fire/action buttons on their control that are used to play games. Note that the buttons are listed for ''one player''.
* Some systems may have start/select and/or other system buttons/swiches, but these are not counted (most emulators have special keys for those).
* Buttons are marked '''d'''igital or '''a'''nalog. Default is '''d'''igital.

3) Cabfriendly:
* Only the most commonly used [[cabinet friendly software|cabinet friendly emulator(s)]] is(are) listed. The console's page might have a more comprehensive list of emulators.

4) Hacking:
* These Atari controllers are very easy to [[Atari Controller Interfaces| interface]] to your arcade controls. It's even compatible with other systems too.

Talk:Game Consoles

2006-04-10T12:27:26Z

Parag0n: /* Ordering */

The table we used in table and frontend, can it not been used in the emulator page as well? Like this?

This page contains brief descriptions of various emulators for each console. If more information is needed for a particular emulator, an individual page will be created.

{| Width="100%" valign="top" border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="3" style="background:white; color:black; border:1px solid silver;"
|- style="background:navy; color:white"
|'''Company'''
|'''Machine & Wikipedia link'''
|'''Players'''
|'''Control Type'''
|'''Nr of Buttons'''
|'''Cabfriedly Emulator(s)'''

|-
|3DO Company
|[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3DO_Interactive_Multiplayer 3DO_Interactive_Multiplayer]
|?
|?
|?
|?

|-
|Atari
|[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_2600 Atari 2600]
|2
|Digital
|1
|?

|-
| Atari
| [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_5200 Atari 5200]
| ?
| Analog
| ?
| [http://www.mess.org/ MESS]

|-
| Atari
| [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_7800 Atari 7800]
| ?
| ?
| ?
| [http://www.mess.org/ MESS]

|-
| Atari
| [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_Jaguar Atari Jaguar]
| ?
| ?
| ?
| ?

|-
| Bally
| [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bally Astrocade Bally Astrocade]
| ?
| ?
| ?
| [http://www.mess.org/ MESS]

|}

We should only list machines and emulator, that can fit into a cabinet. Otherwice there are other page, that are lots better doing that (like Zophar). [[user:Spacefractal|Spacefractal]]

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I like that, it give a nice overview of consoles and direct information. The emulator page should ''always'' point to a page in this wiki, in my opinion, there is most certainly cab related info for each emulator (perhaps have links to front-ends that support this emulator etc.)
Another idea: have an alternating colour backdrop to keep brands (especially Atari, Nintendo and Sega) together like this:

{| Width="100%" valign="top" border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="3" style="background:white; color:black; border:1px solid silver;"
|- style="background:navy; color:white"
|'''Company'''
|'''Machine & Wikipedia link'''
|'''Players'''
|'''Control Type'''
|'''Nr of Buttons'''
|'''Cabfriedly Emulator(s)'''

|-
|3DO Company
|[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3DO_Interactive_Multiplayer 3DO_Interactive_Multiplayer]
|?
|?
|?
|?

|- style="background:#ffffdd;"
|Atari
|[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_2600 Atari 2600]
|2
|Digital
|1
|?

|- style="background:#ffffdd;"
| Atari
| [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_5200 Atari 5200]
| ?
| Analog
| ?
| [[MESS]]

|- style="background:#ffffdd;"
| Atari
| [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_7800 Atari 7800]
| ?
| ?
| ?
| [[MESS]]

|- style="background:#ffffdd;"
| Atari
| [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_Jaguar Atari Jaguar]
| ?
| ?
| ?
| ?

|-
| Bally
| [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bally_Astrocade Bally Astrocade]
| ?
| ?
| ?
| [[MESS]]

|- style="background:#ffffdd;"
| Bandai
| Bandai Atmark (Apple Pippin)
| ?
| ?
| ?
| ?

|}
 [[User:Felsir|Felsir]] 07:22, 26 March 2006 (EST)

Yep, your right. We could even change the table to this one (Each company have one cell):

{| Width="100%" valign="top" border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="3" style="background:white; color:black; border:1px solid silver;"
|- style="background:navy; color:white"
|'''Company'''
|'''Machine & Wikipedia link'''
|'''Players'''
|'''Control Type'''
|'''Nr of Buttons'''
|'''Cabfriedly Emulator(s)'''

|-
|3DO Company
|[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3DO_Interactive_Multiplayer 3DO_Interactive_Multiplayer]
|?
|?
|?
|?

|- style="background:#ffffdd;"
|Atari
|[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_2600 Atari 2600] 
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_5200 Atari 5200] 
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_7800 Atari 7800] 
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_Jaguar Atari Jaguar]
|? 
? 
? 
?
|Digital 
Analog 
? 
?

|? 
? 
? 
?
|? 
[[MESS]] 
[[MESS]] 
?

|-
| Bally
| [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bally_Astrocade Bally Astrocade]
| ?
| ?
| ?
| [[MESS]]

|- style="background:#ffffee;"
| Bandai
| Bandai Atmark (Apple Pippin)
| ?
| ?
| ?
| ?

|}

Wich table version do you like most?

You are right about the emulator page. on these page, we could link to the officiel page, wrappers, hacked versions of a emulator, so it can get this to work on a cab.

--[[User:Spacefractal|Spacefractal]] 09:24, 26 March 2006 (EST)

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Hmm, not really sure, I do like the one-cell-per-brand option you suggested. I'm not sure if the table would still work if -for example- Atari 7800 has three of four emulators; would the lines still match?
What about this mix?

{| Width="100%" valign="top" border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="3" style="background:white; color:black; border:1px solid silver;"
|- style="background:navy; color:white"
|'''Company'''
|'''Machine & Wikipedia link'''
|'''Players'''
|'''Control Type'''
|'''Nr of Buttons'''
|'''Cabfriedly Emulator(s)'''

|-
|3DO Company
|[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3DO_Interactive_Multiplayer 3DO_Interactive_Multiplayer]
|?
|?
|?
|?

|- style="background:#ffffdd;"
|rowspan=4|Atari
|[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_2600 Atari 2600]
|2
|Digital
|1
|?

|- style="background:#ffffdd;"
| [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_5200 Atari 5200]
| ?
| Analog
| ?
| [[MESS]]

|- style="background:#ffffdd;"
| [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_7800 Atari 7800]
| ?
| ?
| ?
| [[MESS]]

|- style="background:#ffffdd;"
| [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_Jaguar Atari Jaguar]
| ?
| ?
| ?
| ?

|-
| Bally
| [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bally_Astrocade Bally Astrocade]
| ?
| ?
| ?
| [[MESS]]

|- style="background:#ffffdd;"
| Bandai
| Bandai Atmark (Apple Pippin)
| ?
| ?
| ?
| ?

|}
 [[User:Felsir|Felsir]] 07:22, 26 March 2006 (EST)

It better. We should only show emulators, that CAN been run from command line, or use of a wrapper.

Some machines have a lots of emulatos, like NES (there are bunch of emulators to this machine). It may been stupid to list them there. But it could been showed in the indept page instead (like the frontend and jukebox section), and maybe some heklp how to intall and config to a arcadecab (like links to wrappes). It even better show emulators in the indepth page, so it can link emulators to linux and dos too (as long these are cabfreidly).

What do you think with this changed table (system buttons like start/select and so on should been shown here):

{| Width="100%" valign="top" border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="3" style="background:white; color:black; border:1px solid silver;"
|- style="background:navy; color:white"
|'''Company'''
|'''Machine'''
|'''Players'''
|'''Control Type'''
|'''Game Buttons'''
|'''System Buttons'''

|-
|3DO Company
|[[3DO_Interactive_Multiplayer]] ([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3DO_Interactive_Multiplayer WikiPedia])
| ?
| ?
| ?
| ?

|- style="background:#ffffdd;"
|rowspan=4|Atari
| [[Atari 2600]] ([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_2600 WikiPedia])
| 2
| Digital
| 1
| 4 (2 swithes)

|- style="background:#ffffdd;"
| [[Atari 5200]] ([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_5200 WikiPedia])
| ?
| Analog
| ?
| ?

|- style="background:#ffffdd;"
| [[Atari 7800]] ([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_7800 WikiPedia])
| ?
| ?
| ?
| ?

|- style="background:#ffffdd;"
| [[Atari Jaguar]] ([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_Jaguar WikiPedia])
| ?
| ?
| ?
| ?

|-
| Bally
| [[Bally Astrocade]] ([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bally_Astrocade WikiPedia])
| ?
| ?
| ?
| ?

|- style="background:#ffffdd;"
| Bandai
| [[Bandai Atmark (Apple Pippin)]]
| ?
| ?
| ?
| ?

|}
--[[User:Spacefractal|Spacefractal]] 14:45, 26 March 2006 (EST)

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Hmm, as long as the machine's pages (like [[3DO_Interactive_Multiplayer]]) don't become a wikipedia article about the console but has a strick structure on what topics are suitable and what topics are not, then I'm fine with it. Perhaps it is better to move the wikipedia link to that page so it is less tempting to put machine specs on the console's page?
It still would like to include a column with cabfriendly emulators since that is what the page is about. Indeed the NES has (too) many emulators to list, but some are notable and useable for cabinets so the list can be short (say up to max 4 emulators per console).

[[User:Felsir|Felsir]] 03:17, 27 March 2006 (EST)

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Yep, the wikipedia links could go into the machine page itself, and link to the wikipedia pages. So we drop wikipedia links on the brief.

The cabfreidly emulators was not a bad idea, so we use that instead, but it could link directly to page, because we could use the indepth page anyware to list them. No need to doing that twice. It better to doing the console based, and not emulator based (like MESS, that is multiple system emulator). It good to destript all NES emulators on the same page, so this is just a quick list to good cabfreidly emulator.

But I may not like the system buttons, because many just use shift buttons to access them anyway.

NB. Underscore is a bad to use (like that one on 3D0 Line).

{| Width="100%" valign="top" border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="3" style="background:white; color:black; border:1px solid silver;"
|- style="background:navy; color:white"
|'''Company'''
|'''Machine'''
|'''Players'''
|'''Controls'''
|'''Game Buttons'''
|'''Cabfreidly Emulators'''

|- style="background:#ffffdd;"
| Atari
| [[Atari 2600]]
| 2
| Digital
| 1
| [http://www.emulator.com stella]
|}

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I like the last version of the table.
Two things:
* Each console will get a page, on this page we can list all emulators (in two secions: ''cab friendly'' and ''other'').
* Each emulator will get a page, so ''MESS'' gets a page (also to enable us to list wrappers, ini files, things like that). So the last column will not link to an external page, but to the emulator page. On that page there is some general info including the link to the official website.
How does that sound? [[User:Felsir|Felsir]] 07:39, 27 March 2006 (EST)

Fine with me, sound great :-).

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Im going to make the table tomorry (Im are going to bed soon). We do not need list other emuators, because there are allready most other sites, that cover that much better, like zophar, retrogames and soon. We should have cabfriedly emulators as the scope here.

But these external link could of course goes from the console/emulator page itself. The samme goes for arcade emulators, pc games and so on. Im was just taked on the console page first.

--[[User:Spacefractal|Spacefractal]] 15:28, 27 March 2006 (EST)

I have now made the table, what do you think. There are of couse some spelling. THe other software page should use this list. It should not list coneols, that is allready on market (I do not known I should list Gameboy Advance, but there are allready very good emulators out there). Gamecube, PS2, Xbox is all nonemulators, but they could list on a another table, under the main one?

--[[User:Spacefractal|Spacefractal]] 16:08, 28 March 2006 (EST)

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The table looks great, good work!
Hmm, PS2, GBA, Cube etc. Perhaps it is a good idea to include those as well - it is a matter of time that these are getting emulated. Also some people do want to play GBA games on their cabinets. Oh, and otherwise people might look at the table and think "hey where is the PS2?". We can add a "not emulated yet" text/icon in that column. [[User:Felsir|Felsir]] 16:41, 28 March 2006 (EST)

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Just thought of it: the "controls" column is rather redundant since the "buttons" column would also indicate wether there are analogue or digital controls present. [[User:Felsir|Felsir]] 01:23, 30 March 2006 (EST)

== Only classic consoles? ==

What is the definition of a "classic" console? Only list the consoles that are not currently in production? Where do we leave the consoles that ''are'' in production, as many use a XBox or PS2 as base for their cabinets. Since the page is not named "console emulation", what article should a reader look for to find information on these consoles? [[User:Felsir|Felsir]] 02:51, 3 April 2006 (EDT)

I have thinks about all up to 64Bit consoles (including Atari Jaguar and Nintendo 64) in the classic list, so it dosen't have too many consoles in the same list). Most people use newer 128bit consoles as a base anyway (as you said), not emulation (even Sega Dreamcast have a good emulator for these games it run, but that emulator tab could still been used in the new table). Sega Dreamcast is a 128bit too, so it may been moved to the 128bit+ consoles (even it out of market, but it may been easier to find all 128bit consoles in the own list?)

I have not did a another table in the new page, but it coming soom (if you not made that first). Of course both articles should link toghether?

This was my idea!

--[[User:Spacefractal|Spacefractal]] 07:25, 3 April 2006 (EDT)

There are not so many handheld consoles, so here I just marked newer consoles with bold (yep Advance is still on market), and let the 128+ consoles article talk for itself (Im have just renamed it from the frontpage).

What do you mean?

--[[User:Spacefractal|Spacefractal]] 07:42, 3 April 2006 (EDT)

I have added the new list all 128bit game consoles (includning Revolutions and PS3). Did I miss some? Sega Dreamast are on the both list, because it really old now (but many users use it as a base, like other newer consoles), but it still a 128 bit console. But should I maybe remove from the classic list? If so I do not doing that my self.

--[[User:Spacefractal|Spacefractal]] 17:31, 3 April 2006 (EDT)

I honestly don't like the distinction 128 bit consoles. It may mean something to you and me, but the average users doesn't care/know wether the console's porcessor is 128, 64 or whatever bitsize. They all share a common demoninator and that is: they're all consoles! So I still have the opinion that all consoles should be on one page. It doesn't matter if there is currently an emulator for them or not. The current consoles are cab related because thay can be used inside a console.
We need to get a stance what this page is about: It started as the "console emulation" page. Now the page is called "classic consoles". Why is that? Because it is rather a list of consoles than a list of emulators. The reason why initially PS2 et al weren't listed is because they couldn't be emulated at the moment. Now the page is renamed to "classic consoles" and they can't be listed because they're not classic. If I rename the page to "List of consoles" they can be included. So why the urge to leave them out of this list? I say we get ''all'' consoles on this page, rename the 128 bit page to "Console based cabinets" and list those consoles there. [[User:Felsir|Felsir]] 01:49, 4 April 2006 (EDT)

"List of consoles".... great idea :-), but what about handhelds (could it not to been "list of handhelds"? Im trying to move them here. Or doing that, what i did with handheld consoles (mark consoles on market bold)?

--[[User:Spacefractal|Spacefractal]] 07:27, 4 April 2006 (EDT)

I have now changed and merged the list. All consoles, that is still en market is marked bold (these is typical used as a base on a cabinet).

Is this better?

''NB. The move tab seen to work, if it dosne't contain a page. It lots easier, so we diddent need to delete pages.''

--[[User:Spacefractal|Spacefractal]] 07:49, 4 April 2006 (EDT)

Much better! [[User:Felsir|Felsir]] 13:59, 4 April 2006 (EDT)

== About Controllers ==

Some machines has so many speciel controllers, like PSX, so I are only liste the very first control, that came with the machine.

Otherice we sould list addons, lightgun, race controllers and other speciel controls. SOme consoles have so many speciel controls (like PSX), wich it is not comon to list them in the main table.

This is why I removed the pro controller for the jaguar again. The 6 button joypad was not a standard controller? This is the smame for Dual Shock controller for PSX. This controller was a addon and not standard.

Otherwice the list of extra controllers (like 6 buttons controllers for genesis/megadrive and of cource jaguar) should been explained in the indepth page instead.

The same goes for number of players. I have just count port, the console may have, and not any addons like multitabs (because not all have them, and many of them was very pricy). You could example have 2 multitabs for PSX (8 players), but only very few game titles use them. It was very sad about PS2, that only did have 2 ports and not 4.

These multitabs can of course explained in the indepth pages instead (you have a lots more space to explain them).

So the main table only count the '''standard controller''', that came with the package, when it came on the market.

== Ordering ==

How should consoles be ordered within a company? Most seem to be in chronological order (eg. Atari, Sony), But some seem to be in a different order (eg. Sega). Also, maybe adding a release date column would be useful? --[[User:Parag0n|Parag0n]] 07:36, 10 April 2006 (EDT)

Good idea (even it could been in the indepth page), because the user can see how old this console is actuelle is (instead of just typo them the bit (like 128bit) or so.

The Ordering is the alphebet order for each company and then console.

--[[User:Spacefractal|Spacefractal]] 08:00, 10 April 2006 (EDT)

I think it may be better to still use alphabetical order for the company names, then go chronological for the consoles within the company --[[User:Parag0n|Parag0n]] 08:27, 10 April 2006 (EDT)

Talk:Game Consoles

2006-04-10T11:36:16Z

Parag0n:

User:Parag0n

2006-04-09T16:56:48Z

Parag0n:

The new kid on the block, i am currently in the parts collection phaze of building my first MAME cabinet. I've been reading everything I can on building arcade cabinets, And the wiki seems the perfect way for me to give back to the community!

I'm a student, currently in my third year of Computer Science at the University of Wales, Aberystwyth.

As a kid, i always wanted to be able to play on arcade cabinets, but at that time games would cost 50p - £1 per game, and convincing my parents to give me the money was difficult ;)

Talk:Vendors

2006-04-09T16:48:58Z

Parag0n:

would it be a good idea to subdivide this page by geographical area?

As most of the distributors on the list are US, i'd suggest adding [[Vendors/Europe]] [[Vendors/Australia]] for the other areas, and leaving the US & canadian vendors on the [[Vendors]] page --[[User:Parag0n|Parag0n]] 12:48, 9 April 2006 (EDT)

BYOAC tokens

2006-04-09T16:39:29Z

Parag0n:

The '''BYOAC tokens''' is one of the [[community projects]] that was started in 2004 and has since then become an annual tradition. The BYOAC tokens are tokens that are accepted by a coin mechanism found in many arcade machines. Many BYOAC members also built a [[coin doors|coin door]] in their scratschbuilt arcade cabinet and a set of original tokens is a nice addition.

2004 and 2005 tokens can be obtained from [[http://www.arcadetokens.com]].

''should add more info about how to obtain, who started this etc. etc.''

==2004 tokens==
[[Image:Scannedbrasssmall.gif]]

==2005 tokens==
[[Image:05BY.jpg]]

==2006 tokens==
The 2006 coins are currently being designed. The thread can be found in the artwork forum [http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=52117.0 here].

BYOAC tokens

2006-04-09T16:37:09Z

Parag0n: /* 2005 tokens */

The '''BYOAC tokens''' is one of the [[community projects]] that was started in 2004 and has since then become an annual tradition. The BYOAC tokens are tokens that are accepted by a coin mechanism found in many arcade machines. Many BYOAC members also built a [[coin doors|coin door]] in their scratschbuilt arcade cabinet and a set of original tokens is a nice addition.

''should add more info about how to obtain, who started this atc. etc.)

==2004 tokens==
[[Image:Scannedbrasssmall.gif]]

==2005 tokens==
[[Image:05BY.jpg]]

==2006 tokens==
The 2006 coins are currently being designed. The thread can be found in the artwork forum [http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=52117.0 here].

BYOAC tokens

2006-04-09T16:36:30Z

Parag0n: /* 2004 tokens */

The '''BYOAC tokens''' is one of the [[community projects]] that was started in 2004 and has since then become an annual tradition. The BYOAC tokens are tokens that are accepted by a coin mechanism found in many arcade machines. Many BYOAC members also built a [[coin doors|coin door]] in their scratschbuilt arcade cabinet and a set of original tokens is a nice addition.

''should add more info about how to obtain, who started this atc. etc.)

==2004 tokens==
[[Image:Scannedbrasssmall.gif]]

==2005 tokens==
''should add images''

==2006 tokens==
The 2006 coins are currently being designed. The thread can be found in the artwork forum [http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=52117.0 here].

File:05BY.jpg

2006-04-09T16:34:36Z

Parag0n: 2005 BYOAC taken.

2005 BYOAC taken.

File:Scannedbrasssmall.gif

2006-04-09T16:34:17Z

Parag0n: 2004 BYOAC taken.

2004 BYOAC taken.

Talk:Trackballs

2006-04-09T16:28:40Z

Parag0n:

What, no Hyper Bowling trackball? :)
There are a few different sizes that are odd. Maybe an odds and ends type section?
[[User:SirPoonga|SirPoonga]] 13:44, 14 March 2006 (EST)

:From a completist point of view, I would say: yes, add a specialist section for those different (non-standard?) sized trackballs. [[User:Felsir|Felsir]] 04:12, 15 March 2006 (EST)

Would it be a good idea to add a section under this page about the Crayola / Genius Kidsball? I think it sets itself apart from other PC trackballs due to its size and ease of use on a control panel [[User:parag0n|parag0n]] 17:33, 9 April 2006 (BST)