User:Procyon

2007-04-10T00:29:05Z

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Talk:Arcade Emulators

2007-04-10T00:27:57Z

Procyon: Import MAME guide from StrategyWiki?

==Comparison grid==
See [[Talk:Jukebox Software]], the same thing applies here I think. We can make pages for emulators (perhaps put all the MAME deratives on one page), emulators like System16, Callus, Raine etc. should also go in the table.
Basically the question is: what would we need in the table? [[User:Felsir|Felsir]] 14:37, 15 March 2006 (EST)

==Individual Emulator Pages==

The same standardization needs to be made for the individual emulator pages to be setup.
I'm think the basic details should be listed at the top, as was done with the [[Talk:Jukebox Software|Jukebox]] software pages, and then a general question format follows with the information. Any thing else other than what is below?

===Example Layout===

'''Emulator Title'''

* OS: OS
* Cost: Freeware/Shareware
* Homepage: site
* Emulated System: System
* Latest Official Version: x.xx
* Last Updated: xx/xx/xxxx

'''Images'''

Logo, Configuration/Options, and/or 1-2 In Game Shots

'''What is Emulator_Title?'''

Basic Description of the emulator

'''What can it run?'''

link to compatibility list, or brief description on how compatible the emulator is.

'''What are the Requirements?'''

System Requirements
Any additional files/hardware/etc

'''How do I set it up?'''

Configuration and required files or setup instructions

'''See Also:'''

additional information or links for the software, configuration, etc

--[[User:Liquid8|Liquid8]] 00:34, 20 May 2006 (EDT)

I guess you are completly right about this one. The only thing is Latest Official Version and Last Updated may need the wiki sites updated often. So for my option, they are not needed. The could been a picture of the console, like we did for the frontend and jukebox software pages.

--[[User:Spacefractal|Spacefractal]] 05:13, 20 May 2006 (EDT)
Last Updated: xx/xx/xxx

Look on the Zinc page? What do you think? I wait to update the other emulator pages.

--[[User:Spacefractal|Spacefractal]] 05:38, 20 May 2006 (EDT)

made a couple modifications on the [[Daphne]] page .. this look good for the rest?

--[[User:Liquid8|Liquid8]] 17:08, 20 May 2006 (EDT)

--[[User:HowardCasto|HowardCasto]] 01:06, 21 May 2006 (EDT)

Looks great, but I would warn about adding misc changes to pages based on quick looks to the emulators homepage. For example, you added in that bit about also using a laserdisc player. While technically possible, it only works for 2 out of the 17 games in daphne (overlay sprites can't be displayed) and even then it won't display the score. So actually, unless you intend to make a dedicated space ace/ dragon's lair cabinet you CANNOT use a laserdisc player. Even the daphne devs say not to use one. I intentionally didn't even mention it on the daphne page because I figured it would only confuse a user with info they don't need. I only go into detail here so you'll understand why I'm going to take the sentence out (or at least modify it so that it reflects how via using a laser disc player actually is).

--[[User:HowardCasto|HowardCasto]] 01:25, 21 May 2006 (EDT)

Also I wonder if the remappble controls entry for games should be more specific.
Even for the only two emulators we've done so far it isn't a simple yes or no answer (zinc needs a plugin and it's nearly impossible to remap without help, and daphne shares one layout for all of it's games, even though a few use controls which might require special mappings).

Suggestions on that one??

Thanks for the note and correction, I didn't realize that. Maybe a simple yes/no/config needed (with a link) needed would work. Emulators with specific setups like that will probably end up having a sub page or sub section in regards to the configuration anyways. The two you mentioned are sort of out of the ordinary from the norm of emulators.

--[[User:Liquid8|Liquid8]] 01:43, 21 May 2006 (EDT)

You are right. remappble controls can have some speciel requirement. These can of course added in this entry, instead of just a yes or no. It should have stood: Plugin or such.

Maybe should we have this entry at all, and instead destript in the indepth destription?

--[[User:Spacefractal|Spacefractal]] 04:43, 21 May 2006 (EDT)

I think if we intend to list all emulators then it needs to stay. If we are only listing cab-friendly emulators, then it could be removed, with just an explanation for the goofy but configurable ones in the 'How do I set it up?' section

--[[User:Liquid8|Liquid8]] 12:42, 21 May 2006 (EDT)

Personally I think it's important to document as many emulators as possible, even the goofy ones. If someone likes a emu enough they WILL find a way to lauch it in a mame cab. Or at least that's been my observation.

This is really starting to shape up. Perhaps the same layout needs to be applied to the simulators section?

--[[User:HowardCasto|HowardCasto]] 02:14, 22 May 2006 (EDT)

There are about 20 emulators (or so on) for NES. Should we really need to list them all? Not, if you ask me.

It a lots better to pick one or 2 emulators (so they can cover Windows and Linux as well) for each console/computer, and guide how to install them to thier cab. Arcadecontrols.com is all about cabinets and not guide each emulators (like example [[zophar.net]] does, they have a lots to nearly every machine) on the market. For arcade emulators, this is a another history.

Remembeer arcadecontrols.com does only cover software to cabinet, and how to builds these controls to use them. It simply better to pick cabfreidly emulators, or can been cabfreidly using a wrapper.

--[[User:Spacefractal|Spacefractal]] 07:45, 22 May 2006 (EDT)

== I dare you. ==

I think this whole standardizing the content is a waste of time at this point. I dare someone to stop wasting time trying to figure out what the layout should be and instead actually add content first.

[[Callus]] is practically empty. [[Final Burn]] is completely empty. [[Modeler]] is completely empty.... I didn't even bother clicking anymore.
I think you'll find that the information and presentation needed for this section of the wiki is not meant to be a encyclopedic answer to what is X. Some of these emulators are worth adding to an arcade cabinet while some of them, it is only useful to mention that they are petty additions to an arcade cabinet.

I have no intention of adding content to any of these other emulators, so I put forth the dare to those who are adding these emulators. The console emulator page is even worse. No one is "Build(ing) Your Own Arcade Controls" using a "Philips CD-i" or a "Xbox 360".

Once all (most? ok, at least HALF?) the content exists - THEN would be a good time to decide what the layout should look like.

''07:10, 23 June 2006 Jelwell (You forgot to add your sign)''

Yep, you are coeect. But these pages is still work in progress, and a far from finished (did you looked for these work in progress tags?). We are just a bit slow to update them. I need help to get them updated.

Otherway. Xbox 360 may been a future cadidate to been used in a cabinet as a base....

The layout about emulators self should been look like Zinc (but I does have standazied some pages).

--[[User:Spacefractal|Spacefractal]] 15:57, 23 June 2006 (EDT)

== Import MAME guide from StrategyWiki? ==

Hi everyone. I was the primary author of the MAME guide over at StrategyWiki (found [http://strategywiki.org/wiki/MAME/Guide here]), and it occurred to me that both StrategyWiki and BYOAC use GFDL, so the MAME guide can be exported from SW and imported here. The question is, would you like that? I'm happy to do it, if you would like to have it here. My only concern is that if it's updated in one location, I hope that it would be updated in the other. Anyway, just tossing it out there for discussion. I'm proud of the guide, I'm just not sure how much good it's doing on SW only. [[User:Procyon|Procyon]] 20:27, 9 April 2007 (EDT)

Superion

2007-04-09T21:42:46Z

Procyon: Updated with layout image.

* '''Project Type:''' Desktop Arcade Controller
* '''Construction Method:''' Scratchbuilt
* '''Monitor Type:''' Unclassified
* '''Interface Type:''' Keyboard Encoder (IPAC)
* '''Special Controls:''' Spinner, Trackball
* '''OS:''' Windows
* '''Homepage:''' http://home.comcast.net/~plotor/gameroom.html

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== Additional Details ==
I wanted to make a podium style joystick, similar to the Showcase 33 Cabinets that I've seen, so that I could connect it to any display that I liked. I started with a Treyonics Devastator (highly recommended) and built a stand to put it on and place a computer inside.

Then I modified the Devastator by adding an extra joystick (dedicated 4-way) and some more buttons. The button layout is optimized to play Capcom and Neo-Geo fighters without the need to remap any controls in MAME. You can see in the layout image that the fourth button (Button D) is mapped twice for both players. This recreates the 1 x 4 button layout for Neo-Geo games, and the 2 x 3 button layout for CPS2 Capcom games. Thus it is immediately ready to work with MAME without the need to reconfigure any of the input.

Lots of custom decorations. I also added an LED beneath the trackball to make it glow. I named it Superion to continue with the theme of Transformers that combined (like Devastator.) The system is currently connected to a Samsung 32" widescreen LCD TV (via the VGA input, 1360 x 768 max resolution. The picture below is of an older setup).

== Layout ==
[[Image:Superion cpanel.png]]

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== Pictures ==
[[image:Superion.jpg]]

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File:Superion cpanel.png

2007-04-09T21:36:16Z

Procyon: Control panel layout for Superion desktop arcade controller

Control panel layout for Superion desktop arcade controller

File:Superion.jpg

2006-12-10T21:18:52Z

Procyon: Scott Jacobi's example of an arcade stand.

Scott Jacobi's example of an arcade stand.

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Superion

File:Superion cpanel.png

File:Superion.jpg