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==Notice... This page is heavily under construction. Please do not alter it. Thanks - MYX==
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==A Day In the Life==
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;Preperation :The morning of the auction, you really do not want to have anything to worry about except for getting to the auction and having a good time. So, a little preperation can help you have a great experience. The auction day is a long and somewhat tireing experience. So, plan to be there for a while (8ish in the am to start, and can go all the way up to 6:30 pm). There is a lot to do, see, and play. If you are planning to spend the day at the auction, it is a good idea to bring a cooler of drinks and enough food for 2 meals. They may not have food there, and If you have brought no food, you'll have to leave to get something and possibly miss an item you want. If you are waiting to bid on a certain machine, it could take hours for the auctioneer to reach it. If food is sold, the quality of the food is usually not very good and quite frankly a little scary (Really... how old is the nacho cheese in that warmer).
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:Think ahead, Do stuff the night before rather than the morning of. A low stress level makes for a much nicer morning. If you have a long drive to get there, get gas the night before. Get some food for in the car. Gather you [[Arcade_Auctions_Quick_List|<b>auction gear</b>]], and put it IN THE CAR.
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:Finally, and I am not trying to make you feel like a little kid, but go to bed early. Nothing worse than being really tired around that much tension and noise.
  
==Arcade Auctions==
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;Wake up :You have been very excited about the auction. you have set your alarm so you can be out of bed and to the auction house before the doors open. But, in your infinite wisdom, though you set your alarm, you did not turn it on. You wake up feeling oddly rested. You glance over at the clock and think...Hmmm 7:30. It has been a long time since I have slept that late. Wonder what I will do toda...CRAP!!! THE AUCTION!!! (Adrenalin surge) You jump out of bed, step on the dog, the dog squeaks and in an attempt to not wake up the rest of the house you change your balance causing you to whack your toe on the dresser (hard). Trying really hard not to scream, you try make your way to the bathroom. You like it dark in your room when you sleep, I mean really, really dark, so you do not see the laundry basket in front of you causing you to fall. During the fall you manage to hit your chin on the same dresser that you stubbed your toe on. The day is not starting so well. The point...don't forget to turn on your alarm. Oh, not that this ever happened to me or anything...Just a warning is all. </drama>
  
==Auction Prices==
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;The Drive :You have made it out of the house. You got gas last night. You get in your car and head towards the auction. You get there a few minutes before 8 am. This is great as you get to go in soon (ahhh the anticipation). So you make small talk with the others who also didn't stub their toe that morning either. These folks, though similar in heart, are the competition. The folks that will be driving your game price up. So now is the time to schmooz and try to get a feel for what you are up against. "So what are YOU looking for?" you might ask. They tell you 'Michael Jackson Thriller, it's a jamma you know...". Relieved, you can call them friend as it is not the game that you came for. Actually all silliness aside, I have met some great people I still keep in touch with at these auctions. All I can say is it is a wonderful gathering of fellow nerds.
Prices will vary according to weather, number of games, time of day.
 
  
* [[Atlanta 02-25-06 | Atlanta 02-25-06]]
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;The Doors finally open :(Not on time by the way). You know that music at the beginning of the Simpson's... You know, the clouds part then angelic voices (Ahhhhh)...Well that should be the sound that happens when the doors of the auction. Time to go in an see what they have. My first auction I walked in and was very much saddened to see this little row of about 15 games with a few games behind them. Sure there was a Defender sitting there (which I eventually bought). But all in all there was just so few. Then I turned my head the other direction and realized that all I had just been looking at, were the late arrivals. There were games as far as the eye could see. Now, please do not go in expecting to see pristine machines in their glory days. Most of these games are old and have seen some abuse in their day. But instead go in looking for possibilities. The BYOAC community is based on the idea: BUILD, RESTORE, PLAY. So see these cabs as the a playground of toys to fix up. Now, Time to go and play. 
  
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;Register :At some point early in the preview period you should register to bid. Some companies like Super Auctions, will now let you register online. I'll say it again, make sure you do this as early as possible. The lines can get quite long and move very slowly. They will collect your home information and payment option. While you are registering, If you are unsure, ask them about the their payment options. Checks are generally not accepted. It's either cash or credit card. You generally need to either put down a money deposit, or leave your driver's license with them. With some companies, once you have registered with them once, you do not need to leave your license at your next auction as they have you on file. <br><b>DO NOT</b> forget to collect your license at the end of the day.<br>
  
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====The Preview Period====
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:There is a preview period before the start of the auction during which time you can power up the games and try them out. Most previews start at 8am and end when the auction opens. Most auctions are scheduled to start at 10am, but they almost always start late. Also, games are often still brought in during the preview period, so don't be too discouraged if there are not too many games when you arrive at 8am. Bring a very long extension cord to try out the games during the preview period. The places are usually very big, and outlets are often only located on the outer walls of the building. Bring a power strip or a multi-tap so that you can plug in multiple games or share an outlet with others (there are usually only a few outlets).
  
Arcade Auctions: Useful Information
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:The preview period is where the fun really starts. It is a large room full of folks running around with their extension cords all looking for some little scrap of electricity to make their game turn on. You see a cluster of folks. Someone has found juice. You make your way through the huddle and find a wad of A/C splitters connected to other A/C splitters connected to power strips connected to other power strips, and all this is coming out of one outlet. You run your extension cord to your game. There is generally a 2 rows back to back, with a space of about 2 feet between the rows. so you make your way down the corridor of the butt sides of all the machines. This is a great place to get an idea of the condition of the machine. Often folks clean up the fronts but neglect the back ends. Just FYI. So, you get to your machine, you look on the floor and there is a scramble of plugs. so you sort out all the plugs and plug in the machine. You hear the screen zap to life so you know it came on. After a run around to the front side you realize you plugged in the machine next to the one you wanted. This is the way it goes. Finally you get your game to work. You get to play the game. Ghaw what fun. Playing the real thing, not some flash simulated web browser knock up, but the real thing. You mark down the lot number of the game and mark that it plays well. Then off to another game. Back to the plug dungeon. You plug in your next game. you coin it up and are just about to play when all the sudden all the power to about 60 games just stops. The room goes suddenly quiet. well for a second that is because the silence is usually followed by a universal...Hey man what the f...Heck happened. I find this funny. Watching people get upset when it is NEVER a good idea to plug that many things into 1 outlet. But the anger dissipates as soon as someone finds the breaker. It is a cycle that happens often throughout the morning.
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By Mario D'Alessio (dalessio@motorola.com)
 
Version 3.8 - Last Updated April 27, 2001
 
Updated and altered by MYX July 2006<br>
 
<b>NOTE:</b> The information presented here was gathered from attending
 
arcade auctions in the Chicago, IL and Indianapolis, IN areas. These
 
auctions were run by US Amusements and Super Auctions. This info
 
may not apply to auctions at other locations or those run by other
 
auction companies.
 
  
* You do not need to register before the auction for permission to
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:Bring pen and paper to jot notes. There may be a number of a particular game and you want to know which worked and which didn't. All items being auctioned are numbered, which helps in tracking the items. the numbered item(s) are called "Lots". Sometimes the auctioneer will print a list of all items, so find out if one's available and get a copy. This is also useful for tracking selling prices. Just be aware that because pieces are still being brought in that morning, the list may not be complete. The numbers do not indicate the order by which things are auctioned.  
attend the event. Just show up. There is no cost to attend.
 
  
* At most arcade auctions, you'll find more than just video games
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:When the preview period ends, sometimes you are asked not to power up or open anything (But if not...GAME ON!!!)  
and pinball machines. You can find all kinds of redemption equipment
 
(money-making items such as kiddie rides, claw machines, etc.),
 
coin-operated pool tables, dart machines, air hockey games, jukebox
 
machines, popcorn makers, soda machines, parts (locks, marquees,
 
circuit boards, controllers, buttons, etc.), and anything else
 
sellers want to sell. Items I have seen auctioned include slot racers
 
and 12' racing tracks, condom machines, boom boxes, golf clubs, and
 
pay telephones. The items you'll see the most of are video games,
 
pinball machines, and jukeboxes.
 
  
In some states, slot machines can be auctioned. You will need to
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:BTW, A game is considered working "all the way" if it powers up, and video games show a picture (even a horrible picture, as most bad pictures can be corrected with monitor adjustments or cheap fixes).
check your state's laws to find out if they can be purchased. In
 
Illinois, slot machines have been auctioned, but these were japanese
 
machines in which the player must hit a button for each slot wheel
 
to stop them. As such, the machines are a game of skill rather than
 
chance and are therefore not illegal. However, in many states it
 
is illegal to transport ANY type of slot machine. Do your homework
 
or buy at your own risk.
 
  
* You will usually find a mix of older games and newer games. Prices
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[[Auction_Preview_Period |<b>Things to Consider</b> ]] - Check out this list of things to consider when previewing games during the auction. You don't want to go home with a dud.  
vary greatly. If you want to get a general idea of prices, browse
 
the web for results of past auctions. However, the chances that
 
they will be the same at the next auction are minimal. I've seen
 
two machines (same game, similar condition) differ by over $100 at
 
the same auction.  Anything goes.  In general, older games cost less
 
except for the classics which are highly desirable. Videogames with
 
25" monitors usually tend to be higher priced. Large sit-down games
 
such as racing games tend to be very high priced (relative to other
 
items), but may still be a bargain.  Also, as the auction progresses,
 
the crowd thins out and the auctioneer gets tired, resulting is
 
shorter bid cycles and lower prices. But again, anything goes.
 
  
* Besides money, the most important (and often neglected) item
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====The Auction Begins====
to bring to the auction is proper transportation for hauling your
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:Usually they will make a few announcements that the auction is about to begin. If you have not registered, DO IT NOW. You do not want to be standing in line and watch all those games slip away.  
purchased items. Make sure you have a vehicle which can handle the
 
items you are planning on buying. Always try to account for more
 
room than you think you really need; not only for a safety margin,
 
but also for those unexpected deals that pop up.  Be sure to bring a
 
tape measure and make sure you measure your vehicle's dimensions. You
 
don't want to purchase a game only to find out later that it won't
 
fit in your vehicle. Games usually have to be out of the place by
 
a certain time the same day, and then you'll be stuck. Be sure to
 
check out every game you are interested in purchasing during the
 
preview period (see below for more info on preview periods).
 
  
If renting a vehicle, be sure to check out cost and conditions for
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:The bidding usually goes like this: The auctioneer will offer a starting price or an "opening bid".  If nobody accepts this bid, he will lower the opening bid until someone accepts his offer. Once the offer is accepted, the auctioneer will ask for the next incremental bid.  The bid increments vary depending on the average cost of the items. For most games, the increments are usually $25, and may be $12.50 when things get heated. Listen to the auctioneer at the start of the auction. You'll look like a fool if you bid $301 when the price is currently $300. The price will go up and up if people keep bidding. Once the bidding has plateaued and one person has accepted a bid that no one else will challenge, the auctioneer will close out the battle by saying "going once... going twice.... SOLD", (or "Gone"). At this point no more bids will be taken (no mater how much you beg). The last person to make a bid (i.e. the one willing to pay the most for the item in question) "wins" the bid and gets the item. They will ask you for your buyer number. They record your number and give it to the cashier. There is no backing out at this point. If you do try to back out, they will make an announcement, everyone will look at you and groan, and depending on the reason for the back out, the may take your number. Bidding then proceeds to the next item and the cycle repeats.
milage, out-of-state transport, one-way use, etc. (This section
 
may be expanded as more info is gathered)
 
  
* At many auctions, some operators will offer to transport games in
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:If you realize that you were bidding on the wrong game (it happens) tell the auctioneer immediately. You do not want to get stuck with the cruddy conversion of solitaire, when you thought you were bidding on the mint Tron right next to it.
the general vicinity of the auction for a fee. The auction company
 
often makes an announcement before the start of the auction to
 
notify people of anyone offering this service. If you decide to
 
go this route, be sure to get all details ahead of time (cost,
 
insurance, what if they break an item, etc.). The auction company
 
has no part to play in this; they just announce the names of those
 
offering this service. Use at your own risk.
 
  
* Always try to attend with at least one other person so that they
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:Someone often works ahead of the auctioneer to power up the games, and they sometimes get non-working games running again. If a game does not power up, the auction company may get it working during the auction.  This could be a good thing (if you wanted a working game), or a bad thing (if you were hoping to get the game cheap).  
can help you move your purchased items. The items may be big and
 
difficult for one person to move. Bring a dolly, and make sure it's
 
strong enough to handle the weight of the machines.
 
  
Videogames are very top-heavy and tip easily. If you are moving
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<b>LISTEN CAREFULLY TO THE AUCTIONEER DURING THE COURSE OF THE AUCTION</b>
one with a dolly, be sure to keep it level unless you have someone
 
holding it upright.  Let's stress this again: VIDEOGAMES TIP EASILY!
 
  
Pinball machines are difficult to move. You most likely will not be
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*Listen for the condition of the game as described by the auctioneer. This is especially useful if you missed it during the preview period, or missed the preview period entirely. I've seen a lady bid high for a Ms. Pac-Man, but she never heard the auctioneer say that it has no monitor or game board, and she couldn't see it due to the crowd of people. (Also another good reason to show up early to look at the games before the auction starts)
able to use a dolly with them. If you're lucky, you may be able to
 
borrow a pinball machine mover; otherwise, you'll end up carrying it
 
to your vehicle, and they are HEAVY! Did I mention bringing a friend?
 
  
* Be prepared to spend a lot of time at the auction. If you are
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*The auctioneer may set up some bidding rules on particular items. Observe the auction numbers on items. If there is a single number for a group of items, they will most likely be auctioned for one bid. Often when there are more than one of a particular item in similar condition, the auctioneer will have people bid on the items, but give the winning bidder a CHOICE of the one or more of the items, EACH at the cost of the winning bid. Be careful. I've seen people think they are getting all of the items for the winning price, and they bid too high.
waiting to bid on a certain machine, it could take hours for
 
the auctioneer to reach it (and you may have to sit through the
 
auctioning of all that redemption stuff mentioned above).
 
  
* Bring something to eat and drink. They may not have food there,
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*One thing to accept with a grain of salt (i.e. don't believe), is when an auctioneer says that a game is rare. The word "rare" is so often misused, it's become meaningless. Yes, some items they say are rare are truly rare, but most often not. Sometimes "rare" means Crap, how am I gonna sell this thing? Just use your own judgment and guidelines.
and then you'll have to leave to get something and possibly miss an
 
item you want. If food is sold, the quality of the food is usually
 
not very good. The auction could last most of the day, plus you'll
 
spend time loading your games. So, you may want to bring two meals
 
and a cooler for drinks.
 
  
* You must register to bid. This is done at the event. Make sure
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*If you stop bidding because the bid price gets too high for you, hoping to get the next one at a lower cost, you may lose any chance of getting any of the items because the auctioneer may offer all the like pieces. I've seen operators win a bid, and then take every one of the items. If you really want one of the items, you may have to be the high bidder the first time; and if you don't take them all, the next bidder may get the items for a lot less. It's a gamble.
you do this as early as possible so you don't miss anything you'd
 
want. The lines can be long. You'll need to either put down a huge
 
money deposit, or leave them your driver's license. If you travel
 
with someone, have the person not driving leave the license and
 
share the bidding number. This is most important if you have a
 
rental vehicle and only one person can drive it.
 
  
* Ask about the payment options. Checks are not accepted. It's
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:Example: if there are 4 boxes of CDs, and the winning bid is $50, the winner may pick one of the boxes for the $50, or choose any 2 for a total of $100, or all for $200. After the winner gets finished the looting, the left overs are auctioned off. They may go for more than the $50 or they could go for $2.00. (The winner got the box with the BeeGee's greatest hits).  
either cash or credit card, and there's an extra fee for paying
 
with a credit card.
 
  
* There is a preview period before the start of the auction during
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*<b>NOTE:</b> Many times the owner of an item will bid on his/her own item in an attempt to reach a higher price. Sometimes the owner will buy back their own items. This is cleverly named, a "buyback". After a while you can learn to spot these people, and if you notice that they are the only ones bidding against you, don't get caught up in "auction fever" and end up spending more than you really wanted to. Buyer beware.
which time you can power up the games and try them out. Most previews
 
start at 8am and end when the auction starts. Most auctions are
 
scheduled to start at 10am, but they almost always start late. Also,
 
games are often still brought in during the preview period, so don't
 
be too discouraged if there are not too many games when you arrive
 
at 8am.
 
  
Be sure to check the auction company's schedule for exact times
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During the auction, the auctioneer and the mass of people will move from game to game. With a huge crowd, this gets uncomfortable and tiring. If you are interested in a particular game, you may want to move ahead of the crowd and stand near the game so you're
and dates. Some web sites are listed below.
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close up when it's auctioned and you can hear what the auctioneer is saying. The quality of their PA systems is often poor, and the
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large rooms have a lot of echo. Bottom line, it is hard to hear a lot of the time.
  
* Bring a very long extension cord to try out the games during
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Whatever isn't chosen is auctioned again.
the preview period. The places are usually very big, and outlets
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Games are sold "as is". Period!
are often only located on the outer walls of the building. Bring a
 
powerstrip or a multi-tap so that you can plug in multiple games or
 
share an outlet with others (there are usually only a few outlets). I
 
also recommend putting your name on everything.
 
  
* Bring pen and paper to jot notes. There may be a number of
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Please be courteous to winning bidders. Nothing makes the moment more awkward than a sore looser making his unhappiness known. Auctions are meant to be fun, not confrontational. Also...Do not play with the games that already have been won. (Unless you won it).
a particular game and you want to know which worked and which
 
didn't. All items being auctioned are numbered, which helps in
 
tracking the items. Sometimes the auctioneer will print a list of
 
all items, so find out if one's available and get a copy. This is
 
also useful for tracking selling prices.
 
  
* Things to do when you preview a game:
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====After the Auction====
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:The auction is now over. It is time to pay and get your games home. It is a weird feeling because it has been a long day, but it went fast. I usually find that I get everything done then go and sit in my car to go home and suddenly realize... Holy cow, I am tired. It is a wonderful thing to be able to open a cooler and pull out an ice cold drink just about now. Now... where did I put the keys?<br>
  * Check out the cosmetic condition of the item
 
 
  * Check the operational condition: buttons and controls work,
 
  monitor and picture quality, LED lights on pinball scores, etc.
 
 
  * Open the coin doors (if not locked) and take a good look inside. A
 
  flashlight is useful for looking around. Check for existance of
 
  all necessary parts, manuals, coins, dead mice, water damage, etc.
 
 
  * Power up the machine. For video games, look for toggle switches
 
  on top, in back, or on the lower sides of the machines. For pinball
 
  games, look underneath or on top of the back portion of the game,
 
  or on the lower right side for some older machines. Rarely are
 
  power switches inside the coin doors.
 
 
  * If a game powers up, play the game. To do this, you'll have to
 
  coin up (credit) the machine. If the coin doors are not locked,
 
  look inside for a credit switch. Otherwise, you can trigger a
 
  credit by triggering the coin detecting mechanism. It's difficult
 
  to explain here in text, so if you don't know how to do this, ask
 
  around. Someone should be able to help.  You'll also find out if
 
  the coin mechanisms work at all. If you care about the coin mechs,
 
  try triggering them by inserting a quarter (which you'll be able
 
  to take back if the coin doors are open).
 
 
  * You are usually asked not to open the backs of video games. Even
 
  if you are not asked, it's best to avoid doing this! It's too easy
 
  for the back panel to fall and break the neck of the monitor. With
 
  many people moving around the games, mistakes will happen. Also,
 
  you may be mistaken for sabotaging the machine and be kicked out
 
  of the auction (it's happened).  Once you purchase a game, then
 
  you can do whatever you want with it.
 
 
  * Many 3+ player videogames have oversized control panels
 
  which are wider than the body of the game. These can usually be
 
  removed for easier transport, and for fitting the game through
 
  your door. Make sure you check for this unless you have plenty
 
  of room in your vehicle, and the game's destination has a large
 
  enough entranceway. If you disconnect the panel, be sure to mark
 
  the connectors for easy reassembly.
 
 
  * Many games are conversions. A conversion came from the factory
 
  as one game, and was later converted into another game by an
 
  operator. If you are interested in originals only, make sure you
 
  check if the game is a conversion. For example, a Mortal Kombat may
 
  have been created from a Centipede cabinet (oh, the pain!). Some
 
  games look like nothing more than a combination of spare parts. Go
 
  to the KLOV site (see below) for info on video games and pics of
 
  originals. Also be aware that if a game is a conversion, it may be a
 
  different size than you first thought. So don't forget to measure it.
 
 
  * For pinball machines, make sure you check if the back of the
 
  machine folds down or disconnects (not all do, or are troublesome
 
  to disconnect).  Otherwise, you may have a tough time fitting the
 
  machine in your vehicle (if the back doesn't come down, it may not
 
  even fit into a full-sized van). On most pinballs, the legs can
 
  be removed for easier transport.  Bring tools to undo any bolts
 
  (wrench, screwdrivers, etc.)
 
 
  * Check the condition of the plastics on pinball machine playfields,
 
  especially the ramps. Broken parts can be very expensive to
 
  replace. If the game has an LED dot matrix display, be sure to
 
  check this as these are very expensive as well.
 
 
  * When transporting a pinball machine, it's probably best to not
 
  remove the backglass (the glass with the artwork which faces you and
 
  has the scores) or topglass (the glass covering the playfield). It's
 
  too easy to drop them. If you do remove either, avoid placing them
 
  flat on a hard surface; stand them up. If they break, they usually
 
  shatter into a million pieces.
 
 
  If the back of the machine folds down onto the body of the pinball
 
  machine, place cardboard or a blanket within the fold to keep the
 
  parts from touching, and to cushion them.
 
 
  I am not too experienced with moving pinball machines, so make sure
 
  you ask an experienced person about this before doing anything.
 
  I have seen a person drop a backglass on the floor at an auction,
 
  and they can be extremely difficult to replace as parts are no
 
  longer being made.  As with everything, be careful!
 
 
  * For dart machines, power up the machine and start a game. Hit
 
  dartboard segments to see if they register. Some may be dead, or
 
  the whole dartboard may be dead. Some don't play cricket (a very
 
  popular dart game), so check this if you want it.
 
 
  Most dart machines can be separated into two pieces (top and bottom).
 
  Check for this. If you end up disassembling a dart machine, be very
 
  careful when doing this as the top can easily tip off and crash
 
  to the floor. Also note all connections so it will be easier to
 
  reconnect later.
 
 
  * For jukeboxes, check if it plays records (45s) or CDs. Check if
 
  the 45s or CDs are included. Often, boxes of records or CDs are
 
  auctioned separately. Since 45s are no longer made, the jukeboxes
 
  that play them tend to be cheaper, but the 45s themselves tend to
 
  be more expensive and tougher to find.
 
 
* Games are sold "as is". Period!
 
  
* If a game does not power up, the auction company may get it working
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; How do I pay? :It's cheaper to pay cash. Again, there is sometimes a fee for paying with credit card. Usually it is about 5%. As with the auctioneer's take, this is NOT included in the "sold" price. Cash is best, so bring lots of it!
during the auction. Someone often works ahead of the auctioneer
 
to power up the games, and they sometimes get non-working games
 
running again. This could be a good thing (you wanted a working game)
 
or a bad thing (you were hoping to get the game cheap).
 
  
* A game is considered working "all the way" if it powers up, and
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;There is a sign that says that I can get the keys from the manager. What keys?
video games show a picture (even a horrible picture, as most bad
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:Some folks that bring their games in are nice enough not to strip out the coin mechs and coin door keys. This is a great thing as now you do not have to go and purchase them your self. Usually there is a front table. The manager has a large selection of keys. They keys will be numbered according to lots just like your game. When you have your recipt, visit the table and collect your keys.  
pictures can be corrected with monitor adjustments or cheap fixes).
 
  
* Observe the auction numbers on items. If there is a single number
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;I won and wanna go home. :After winning an item, you can pay for it and haul it away at any time during the auction. The most you will have to wait is for the auctioneers to get the selling information input into their computer systems. So, give them at least a half-hour before you wait in line to pay.
for a group of items, they will most likely be auctioned for one bid
 
(but the auctioneer can change the rules, see below).
 
  
* When the preview period ends, you are asked not to power up or
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;How long do I have to get my stuff out of there?
open anything. Be courteous to everyone and obey this. Be especially
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:Purchased items have to be out of the building by a certain time. Make sure you ask for this time. When bidding, be sure to keep this in mind so that you give yourself enough time to get your items out. There may be only one large exit, and other people's vehicles may be pulled up to it, meaning that you have to wait your turn to get out. Don't be caught short on time.<br>
courteous to winning bidders and don't play with games they won.
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==Actual Auction Prices==
 
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It is sometimes nice to see ahead of time, how much to expect to pay for their favorite game. Below are from auctions that the BYOAC community have been to and have recorded the prices.  
* During the auction, the auctioneer and the mass of people will
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* [[Atlanta 02-25-06 | Atlanta 02-25-06]]
move from game to game. This gets uncomfortable with a hugh crowd,
 
and tiring. If you are interested in a particular game, you may
 
want to move ahead of the crowd and stand near the game so you're
 
close up when it's auctioned and you can hear what the auctioneer
 
is saying (the quality of their PA systems is often poor, and the
 
large rooms have a lot of echo).
 
 
 
* LISTEN CAREFULLY to the auctioneer during the auction. They may
 
set up some bidding rules on particular items.
 
 
  * Often when there are more than one of a particular item in similar
 
  condition, the auctioneer will have people bid on the items, but
 
  give the winning bidder a CHOICE of the one or more of the items,
 
  EACH at the cost of the winning bid.
 
 
  BE CAREFUL as I've seen people think they are getting all of the
 
  items for the winning price, and they bid too high.
 
 
  Whatever isn't chosen is auctioned again.
 
 
  If you stop bidding because the bid price gets too high for you,
 
  hoping to get the next one at a lower cost, you may lose any
 
  chance of getting any of the items if the winner grabs all of the
 
  items. I've seen operators win a bid, and then take every one of
 
  the items. If you really want one of the items, you may have to
 
  be the high bidder the first time; and if you don't take them all,
 
  the next bidder may get the items for a lot less. It's a gamble.
 
 
  Example: if there are 4 boxes of CDs, and the winning bid is $50,
 
  the winner may pick one of the boxes for the $50, or choose any 2
 
  for a total of $100, or all for $200.
 
 
  * Another thing to listen for is the condition of the game as
 
  described by the auctioneer (especially useful if you missed
 
  it during the preview period, or missed the preview period
 
  entirely). I've seen a lady bid high for a Ms. Pac-Man, but she
 
  never heard the auctioneer say that it has no monitor or game board,
 
  and she couldn't see it due to the crowd of people.
 
 
  * One thing to accept with a grain of salt (i.e. don't believe)
 
  is when an auctioneer says that a game is rare. The word "rare"
 
  is so often misused, it's become meaningless. Yes, some items they
 
  say are rare are truly rare, but most often not. Just use your own
 
  judgement and guidelines.
 
 
* The bidding usually goes like this: The auctioneer asks for a
 
starting price (an "opening bid").  If nobody accepts this bid, he
 
will lower the opening bid until someone accepts his offer. Once the
 
offer is accepted, the auctioneer will ask for the next incremental
 
bid.  As the price rises past the limits of the various bidders
 
(going, going, gone), the bidders stop bidding. The last person to
 
make a bid (i.e. the one willing to pay the most for the item in
 
question) "wins" the bid and gets the item. Bidding then proceeds
 
to the next item.
 
 
 
The bid increments vary depending on the average cost of the
 
items. For most games, the increments are usually $25, and may
 
be $12.50 when things get heated. Listen to the auctioneer at the
 
start of the auction. You'll look like a fool if you bid $301 when
 
the price is currently $300.
 
 
 
* Many times the owner of an item will bid on his/her own item in
 
an attempt to reach a higher price. Sometimes the owner will buy
 
back their own items (this is called a "buyback"). After a while
 
you can learn to spot these people, and if you notice that they are
 
the only ones bidding against you, don't get caught up in "auction
 
fever" and end up spending more than you really wanted. Buyer beware.
 
 
 
* The auctioneer gets a percentage of the selling price, and this
 
is not included in the "sold" price. So, if the auctioneer gets 10%
 
(the usual), and you win the bid at $100, you'll really have to
 
pay $110 for the item.
 
 
 
It's cheaper to pay cash. There's a fee for paying with credit card,
 
and it's usually about 5%.  As with the auctioneer's take, this is
 
NOT included in the "sold" price. Cash is best, so bring lots of it!
 
 
 
Sales tax will be applied to any items purchased. And no, this is not
 
included in the selling price. If you are attending an auction in a
 
different state than your home, be sure to ask the auction company
 
for the local state tax percentage. It's best to bring a calculator.
 
 
 
Always check with the auction company for full details.
 
 
 
* After winning an item, you can pay for it and haul it away at
 
any time during the auction. The most you will have to wait is for
 
the auctioneers to get the selling information input into their
 
computer systems. So, maybe give them at least a half-hour before
 
you wait in line to pay.
 
 
 
* Purchased items have to be out of the building by a certain
 
time. Make sure you ask for this time. When bidding, be sure to
 
keep this in mind so that you give yourself enough time to get your
 
items out. There may be only one large exit, and other people's
 
vehicles may be pulled up to it, meaning that you have to wait your
 
turn to get out. Don't be caught short on time. As noted above,
 
bring a friend to help.
 
 
 
* Bring items to secure any games in your vehicle (rope, tie downs,
 
etc.)  If your vehicle is uncovered, bring enough tarps to protect
 
your games from the weather.
 
 
 
When loading videogames and pinball machines on an uncovered vehicle,
 
be sure to not face the front of the machines forward. The pressure
 
of the wind when moving at highway speeds may break the glass.
 
 
 
Make sure the items are loaded and secured so that they will not
 
move at all during transport. Otherwise they will get banged up or
 
broken when you accelerate and brake the vehicle.
 
 
 
* For your benefit and the benefit of other collectors out there,
 
it's very helpful to take pictures and keep track of prices and
 
then post this information on the Internet. Digital cameras are
 
especially useful for this.  If you meet other collectors at the
 
auction, divide up the task.
 
 
 
* Anyone can bring items to the auction to sell. If you have items
 
you wish to auction, contact the auction company for details.
 
 
 
* Don't forget your money (preferably cash) and proper
 
transportation!  See the end of this document for a list of items
 
to bring.
 
 
 
 
 
Most arcade auctions are run by US Amusements or Super
 
Auctions. Their web sites are:
 
 
 
http://www.usamusements.com
 
http://www.superauctions.com
 
 
 
Information on most arcade games can be found at the Killer List
 
of Video Games (KLOV). It's web site is:
 
 
 
http://www.klov.com
 
  
The official FAQ for buying at an auction can be found here:
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For your benefit and the benefit of other collectors out there, it's very helpful to take pictures and keep track of prices and then post this information on the here. Digital cameras and cell phone cameras are especially useful for this.  If you meet other collectors at the auction, divide up the task of writing down the prices as it can be quite taxing to do this the whole day.<br> <b>Note:</b> some companies do not allow you to take pictures. Apparently there was some trouble some time back with one attender taking pictures of another attenders daughter.<br>
  
http://www.spies.com/arcade/info/index.html
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Most video games manufactured since the late 80s (I think) are JAMMA
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Most arcade auctions are run by US Amusements or Super Auctions. Their web sites are:<br>
games. The JAMMA association defined a standard for the pinouts of
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* http://www.usamusement.com <br>
a game's game board which connect to the game controllers, monitor,
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* http://www.superauctions.com <br>
coin mechs, and power supplies. Because of this, JAMMA boards
 
are interchangable. You can switch games simply by plugging in a
 
different board, as long as your control panel has the necessary
 
controller items (e.g. if you control panel has 1 joystick and
 
3 buttons per player, you won't be able to play Mortal Kombat
 
since that requires 5 buttons per player), and the monitor is the
 
correct orientation (horizontal vs. vertical). The KLOV indicates
 
JAMMA games.
 
  
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==See Also==
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* [[Getting_Games_Home | <b>Getting Your Games Home</b>]] - Several suggestions on how to get your new games home.
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* [[Arcade_Auctions_Quick_List | <b>Quick List</b>]] - A helpful list of things you may need when attending an auction.<br>
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* [[Vendors | <b>Vendors</b>]]
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* [[Game_Room |<b>Back to Game Room</b>]]
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Here's a list of items to bring to an arcade auction.
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*[[Arcade_Auctions_1#Arcade Auctions: Useful Information | <b>Back to the Top</b>]]
Pick and choose as needed.
 
  
* Money (cash is best)
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[[Category:Vendors]]
* Proper transportation
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[[Category:Index]]
* Toll money
 
* Driving directions to auction location
 
* Road map
 
* Long (e.g. 100') extension cord
 
* Multi-tap or powerstrip
 
* Portable chair (often there isn't anywhere to sit)
 
* Tape measure
 
* Calculator (hmmm, $125 + 10% + 3% + 8% .....)
 
* Flashlight
 
* Tools (phillips & spade screwdrivers, socket set, pliers, etc.)
 
* Pen
 
* Paper
 
* Clipboard
 
* Fine point permanent marker (to mark items during disassembly)
 
* Tarps
 
* Moving blankets
 
* Duct tape
 
* Long rope
 
* Knife
 
* Tie downs/Bungee cords
 
* Dolly and straps
 
* Cellulin wrap
 
* Lunch / pop / water
 
* List of games indicating which are JAMMA
 
* Walkie-talkies and extra batteries (to keep in touch with others
 
  if it's a big place, or if traveling in multiple vehicles)
 
* Handi-wipes (bathrooms don't always have soap)
 
* Camera (to take pics for posting on the internet)
 

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A Day In the Life

Preperation
The morning of the auction, you really do not want to have anything to worry about except for getting to the auction and having a good time. So, a little preperation can help you have a great experience. The auction day is a long and somewhat tireing experience. So, plan to be there for a while (8ish in the am to start, and can go all the way up to 6:30 pm). There is a lot to do, see, and play. If you are planning to spend the day at the auction, it is a good idea to bring a cooler of drinks and enough food for 2 meals. They may not have food there, and If you have brought no food, you'll have to leave to get something and possibly miss an item you want. If you are waiting to bid on a certain machine, it could take hours for the auctioneer to reach it. If food is sold, the quality of the food is usually not very good and quite frankly a little scary (Really... how old is the nacho cheese in that warmer).
Think ahead, Do stuff the night before rather than the morning of. A low stress level makes for a much nicer morning. If you have a long drive to get there, get gas the night before. Get some food for in the car. Gather you auction gear, and put it IN THE CAR.
Finally, and I am not trying to make you feel like a little kid, but go to bed early. Nothing worse than being really tired around that much tension and noise.
Wake up
You have been very excited about the auction. you have set your alarm so you can be out of bed and to the auction house before the doors open. But, in your infinite wisdom, though you set your alarm, you did not turn it on. You wake up feeling oddly rested. You glance over at the clock and think...Hmmm 7:30. It has been a long time since I have slept that late. Wonder what I will do toda...CRAP!!! THE AUCTION!!! (Adrenalin surge) You jump out of bed, step on the dog, the dog squeaks and in an attempt to not wake up the rest of the house you change your balance causing you to whack your toe on the dresser (hard). Trying really hard not to scream, you try make your way to the bathroom. You like it dark in your room when you sleep, I mean really, really dark, so you do not see the laundry basket in front of you causing you to fall. During the fall you manage to hit your chin on the same dresser that you stubbed your toe on. The day is not starting so well. The point...don't forget to turn on your alarm. Oh, not that this ever happened to me or anything...Just a warning is all. </drama>
The Drive
You have made it out of the house. You got gas last night. You get in your car and head towards the auction. You get there a few minutes before 8 am. This is great as you get to go in soon (ahhh the anticipation). So you make small talk with the others who also didn't stub their toe that morning either. These folks, though similar in heart, are the competition. The folks that will be driving your game price up. So now is the time to schmooz and try to get a feel for what you are up against. "So what are YOU looking for?" you might ask. They tell you 'Michael Jackson Thriller, it's a jamma you know...". Relieved, you can call them friend as it is not the game that you came for. Actually all silliness aside, I have met some great people I still keep in touch with at these auctions. All I can say is it is a wonderful gathering of fellow nerds.
The Doors finally open 
(Not on time by the way). You know that music at the beginning of the Simpson's... You know, the clouds part then angelic voices (Ahhhhh)...Well that should be the sound that happens when the doors of the auction. Time to go in an see what they have. My first auction I walked in and was very much saddened to see this little row of about 15 games with a few games behind them. Sure there was a Defender sitting there (which I eventually bought). But all in all there was just so few. Then I turned my head the other direction and realized that all I had just been looking at, were the late arrivals. There were games as far as the eye could see. Now, please do not go in expecting to see pristine machines in their glory days. Most of these games are old and have seen some abuse in their day. But instead go in looking for possibilities. The BYOAC community is based on the idea: BUILD, RESTORE, PLAY. So see these cabs as the a playground of toys to fix up. Now, Time to go and play.
Register
At some point early in the preview period you should register to bid. Some companies like Super Auctions, will now let you register online. I'll say it again, make sure you do this as early as possible. The lines can get quite long and move very slowly. They will collect your home information and payment option. While you are registering, If you are unsure, ask them about the their payment options. Checks are generally not accepted. It's either cash or credit card. You generally need to either put down a money deposit, or leave your driver's license with them. With some companies, once you have registered with them once, you do not need to leave your license at your next auction as they have you on file.
DO NOT forget to collect your license at the end of the day.

The Preview Period

There is a preview period before the start of the auction during which time you can power up the games and try them out. Most previews start at 8am and end when the auction opens. Most auctions are scheduled to start at 10am, but they almost always start late. Also, games are often still brought in during the preview period, so don't be too discouraged if there are not too many games when you arrive at 8am. Bring a very long extension cord to try out the games during the preview period. The places are usually very big, and outlets are often only located on the outer walls of the building. Bring a power strip or a multi-tap so that you can plug in multiple games or share an outlet with others (there are usually only a few outlets).
The preview period is where the fun really starts. It is a large room full of folks running around with their extension cords all looking for some little scrap of electricity to make their game turn on. You see a cluster of folks. Someone has found juice. You make your way through the huddle and find a wad of A/C splitters connected to other A/C splitters connected to power strips connected to other power strips, and all this is coming out of one outlet. You run your extension cord to your game. There is generally a 2 rows back to back, with a space of about 2 feet between the rows. so you make your way down the corridor of the butt sides of all the machines. This is a great place to get an idea of the condition of the machine. Often folks clean up the fronts but neglect the back ends. Just FYI. So, you get to your machine, you look on the floor and there is a scramble of plugs. so you sort out all the plugs and plug in the machine. You hear the screen zap to life so you know it came on. After a run around to the front side you realize you plugged in the machine next to the one you wanted. This is the way it goes. Finally you get your game to work. You get to play the game. Ghaw what fun. Playing the real thing, not some flash simulated web browser knock up, but the real thing. You mark down the lot number of the game and mark that it plays well. Then off to another game. Back to the plug dungeon. You plug in your next game. you coin it up and are just about to play when all the sudden all the power to about 60 games just stops. The room goes suddenly quiet. well for a second that is because the silence is usually followed by a universal...Hey man what the f...Heck happened. I find this funny. Watching people get upset when it is NEVER a good idea to plug that many things into 1 outlet. But the anger dissipates as soon as someone finds the breaker. It is a cycle that happens often throughout the morning.
Bring pen and paper to jot notes. There may be a number of a particular game and you want to know which worked and which didn't. All items being auctioned are numbered, which helps in tracking the items. the numbered item(s) are called "Lots". Sometimes the auctioneer will print a list of all items, so find out if one's available and get a copy. This is also useful for tracking selling prices. Just be aware that because pieces are still being brought in that morning, the list may not be complete. The numbers do not indicate the order by which things are auctioned.
When the preview period ends, sometimes you are asked not to power up or open anything (But if not...GAME ON!!!)
BTW, A game is considered working "all the way" if it powers up, and video games show a picture (even a horrible picture, as most bad pictures can be corrected with monitor adjustments or cheap fixes).

Things to Consider - Check out this list of things to consider when previewing games during the auction. You don't want to go home with a dud.

The Auction Begins

Usually they will make a few announcements that the auction is about to begin. If you have not registered, DO IT NOW. You do not want to be standing in line and watch all those games slip away.
The bidding usually goes like this: The auctioneer will offer a starting price or an "opening bid". If nobody accepts this bid, he will lower the opening bid until someone accepts his offer. Once the offer is accepted, the auctioneer will ask for the next incremental bid. The bid increments vary depending on the average cost of the items. For most games, the increments are usually $25, and may be $12.50 when things get heated. Listen to the auctioneer at the start of the auction. You'll look like a fool if you bid $301 when the price is currently $300. The price will go up and up if people keep bidding. Once the bidding has plateaued and one person has accepted a bid that no one else will challenge, the auctioneer will close out the battle by saying "going once... going twice.... SOLD", (or "Gone"). At this point no more bids will be taken (no mater how much you beg). The last person to make a bid (i.e. the one willing to pay the most for the item in question) "wins" the bid and gets the item. They will ask you for your buyer number. They record your number and give it to the cashier. There is no backing out at this point. If you do try to back out, they will make an announcement, everyone will look at you and groan, and depending on the reason for the back out, the may take your number. Bidding then proceeds to the next item and the cycle repeats.
If you realize that you were bidding on the wrong game (it happens) tell the auctioneer immediately. You do not want to get stuck with the cruddy conversion of solitaire, when you thought you were bidding on the mint Tron right next to it.
Someone often works ahead of the auctioneer to power up the games, and they sometimes get non-working games running again. If a game does not power up, the auction company may get it working during the auction. This could be a good thing (if you wanted a working game), or a bad thing (if you were hoping to get the game cheap).

LISTEN CAREFULLY TO THE AUCTIONEER DURING THE COURSE OF THE AUCTION

  • Listen for the condition of the game as described by the auctioneer. This is especially useful if you missed it during the preview period, or missed the preview period entirely. I've seen a lady bid high for a Ms. Pac-Man, but she never heard the auctioneer say that it has no monitor or game board, and she couldn't see it due to the crowd of people. (Also another good reason to show up early to look at the games before the auction starts)
  • The auctioneer may set up some bidding rules on particular items. Observe the auction numbers on items. If there is a single number for a group of items, they will most likely be auctioned for one bid. Often when there are more than one of a particular item in similar condition, the auctioneer will have people bid on the items, but give the winning bidder a CHOICE of the one or more of the items, EACH at the cost of the winning bid. Be careful. I've seen people think they are getting all of the items for the winning price, and they bid too high.
  • One thing to accept with a grain of salt (i.e. don't believe), is when an auctioneer says that a game is rare. The word "rare" is so often misused, it's become meaningless. Yes, some items they say are rare are truly rare, but most often not. Sometimes "rare" means Crap, how am I gonna sell this thing? Just use your own judgment and guidelines.
  • If you stop bidding because the bid price gets too high for you, hoping to get the next one at a lower cost, you may lose any chance of getting any of the items because the auctioneer may offer all the like pieces. I've seen operators win a bid, and then take every one of the items. If you really want one of the items, you may have to be the high bidder the first time; and if you don't take them all, the next bidder may get the items for a lot less. It's a gamble.
Example: if there are 4 boxes of CDs, and the winning bid is $50, the winner may pick one of the boxes for the $50, or choose any 2 for a total of $100, or all for $200. After the winner gets finished the looting, the left overs are auctioned off. They may go for more than the $50 or they could go for $2.00. (The winner got the box with the BeeGee's greatest hits).
  • NOTE: Many times the owner of an item will bid on his/her own item in an attempt to reach a higher price. Sometimes the owner will buy back their own items. This is cleverly named, a "buyback". After a while you can learn to spot these people, and if you notice that they are the only ones bidding against you, don't get caught up in "auction fever" and end up spending more than you really wanted to. Buyer beware.

During the auction, the auctioneer and the mass of people will move from game to game. With a huge crowd, this gets uncomfortable and tiring. If you are interested in a particular game, you may want to move ahead of the crowd and stand near the game so you're close up when it's auctioned and you can hear what the auctioneer is saying. The quality of their PA systems is often poor, and the large rooms have a lot of echo. Bottom line, it is hard to hear a lot of the time.

Whatever isn't chosen is auctioned again. Games are sold "as is". Period!

Please be courteous to winning bidders. Nothing makes the moment more awkward than a sore looser making his unhappiness known. Auctions are meant to be fun, not confrontational. Also...Do not play with the games that already have been won. (Unless you won it).

After the Auction

The auction is now over. It is time to pay and get your games home. It is a weird feeling because it has been a long day, but it went fast. I usually find that I get everything done then go and sit in my car to go home and suddenly realize... Holy cow, I am tired. It is a wonderful thing to be able to open a cooler and pull out an ice cold drink just about now. Now... where did I put the keys?
How do I pay?
It's cheaper to pay cash. Again, there is sometimes a fee for paying with credit card. Usually it is about 5%. As with the auctioneer's take, this is NOT included in the "sold" price. Cash is best, so bring lots of it!
There is a sign that says that I can get the keys from the manager. What keys?
Some folks that bring their games in are nice enough not to strip out the coin mechs and coin door keys. This is a great thing as now you do not have to go and purchase them your self. Usually there is a front table. The manager has a large selection of keys. They keys will be numbered according to lots just like your game. When you have your recipt, visit the table and collect your keys.
I won and wanna go home.
After winning an item, you can pay for it and haul it away at any time during the auction. The most you will have to wait is for the auctioneers to get the selling information input into their computer systems. So, give them at least a half-hour before you wait in line to pay.
How long do I have to get my stuff out of there?
Purchased items have to be out of the building by a certain time. Make sure you ask for this time. When bidding, be sure to keep this in mind so that you give yourself enough time to get your items out. There may be only one large exit, and other people's vehicles may be pulled up to it, meaning that you have to wait your turn to get out. Don't be caught short on time.

Actual Auction Prices

It is sometimes nice to see ahead of time, how much to expect to pay for their favorite game. Below are from auctions that the BYOAC community have been to and have recorded the prices.

For your benefit and the benefit of other collectors out there, it's very helpful to take pictures and keep track of prices and then post this information on the here. Digital cameras and cell phone cameras are especially useful for this. If you meet other collectors at the auction, divide up the task of writing down the prices as it can be quite taxing to do this the whole day.
Note: some companies do not allow you to take pictures. Apparently there was some trouble some time back with one attender taking pictures of another attenders daughter.


Most arcade auctions are run by US Amusements or Super Auctions. Their web sites are:

See Also